Monday, November 3, 2008

It's an Odd Coincidence, Is It Not?

I am not the Japanese scholor that Driver-san is but I did do a few units of Pimsleur's Conversational Japanese.  One thing I learned was that if you add the "nay" sound to a word in Japanese it becomes a question of the form "is it not?". So "here is the car" becomes "isn't the car here?" by adding this sound. 

I found this very curious because I took Latin in high school (from a Jesuit named Father Crane whom, we were all convinced, had learned Latin as a child in Ancient Rome) and there was a similar construct in Latin. Well, not so much "similar" as "identical". If you add the letters "ne" (pronounced in Latin "nay")  to a word it expressed the exact same idea as the "nay" sound in Japanese. That is, "is it not?" 

This is either the mother of all coincidences (that two so very different languages should have the same exact sound used in the exactly the same way) or there must be some cross over from Latin to Japanese. That would be very strange, would it not, for the Romans to influence the Japanese?  I don't think anything like that happened in history.

But Japan was visited by Portuguese Jesuit priests. Portuguese is a "romance language" which means that it is heavily influenced by Latin. I have no idea if Portuguese has the "ne" construct in it but it sounds plausible to me. Maybe the Japanese got this very convenient verbal trick from the Portuguese who got it from the Romans. 

So perhaps both the Japanese and I learned Latin from Jesuits! 

An odd coincidence, is it not? 

1 comment:

Driver said...

I was thinking about this, and wish to note that there are at least three other sentence endings that play roles akin to that of ne: yo, zo, and ze.

I can use these, but it's hard for me to articulate how to use them. Perhaps this works: They're all assertive interjections, but yo carries an explanatory nuance, as well. You're telling your interlocutor something she didn't know before.

Zo is more just an assertive interjection: "I want to go, too!"

And ze is a more powerful, cruder form of zo. "I'm going to f-ing kill you."